Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. For five years, the murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German have hung over Delphi, ghosts that couldn't be put to rest. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! And my ban appeal didnt work either. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. I must have the wrong name for your POI? We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. That would have been quite a problem. Archived post. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. DELPHI, Ind. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. Its $20. The LE source didnt work on the case. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. I have one more message for you. DELPHI, Ind. Can you believe that I said that on Facebook, and some retarded ass computer flagged it and banned me for a while for insulting another user? Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Maybe. So I held off. One person wins and everyone else loses. Why do kids play make-believe? Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. I just like to take this opportunity to thank the Mods in making this subreddit Delphimurders readable again and to the posters who post informative, well thought out COMMENTS. An amateurs look into what profiling techniques could tell us about the murderer of Abigail Williams and Liberty German.Not looking to monetise this dreadful. Oh one more thing. Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. The others are guardians. Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. Shameful. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. Although no arrests have been made in the case, the transcripts detail information that puts the case back in the national spotlight. Im not sure if its better that way or not. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! Dime a dozen. KAK and his Dad. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. One daughter, estranged. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. I think he already knew that they would be there. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. No one knows if he did this crime or not. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. Put the competing theory to the logic test. He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. Its as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. Are they deliberately lying to us? It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Cops have told us more than they told any of those guardians. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, He kills chicks! A large crowd attended a St. Joseph County Council committee Tuesday night, as some high profile assistance programs could get funding cuts. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. Now he says he never saw BG at all. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. I do not feel that this has anything to do with anything. On February 13, 2017, the two friends went for an afternoon walk, where they posted social media photos of their adventures that day. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. Amazing work! I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. Carter added the probable cause affidavit. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. Thank you so much! *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Kelsi has been cleared. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. 6) He has a family member thats buried in the cemetery near the Monon Bridge. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2019/09/20/support-beyond-highbrow/. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and cant keep her stories straight. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. (ETK note: This sounds exactly like the Rand Corporation's "Delphi Technique," which, as I document in www.waterwatchalliance.us, has been utilized against the Crestone/Baca community in the past). Welcome to the site! So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. The two girls were on a hiking trail when they were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. You dont have LE sources. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. Isnt that logical. (WISH) More than five years have passed since the murders of two young girls in a small Indiana town. 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